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    fillers stay under sealant???

    Hey all..

    Real quick question .... first - you know how alot of glazes etc. have fillers to cover swirl marks.

    If I applied say Meg`s Machine Glaze with rotary (after using DACP), firstly would all the fillers be lost when I then apply AIO to the surface? secondly, when I`ve applied UPP to it - will that `lock in` the fillers as it is now a layer above it???

    so...when I wash the thing, will the fillers stay in for much longer?

    BTW....has any1 used Megs Machine Glaze??? i`ve heard how good it is ..... I have deep crystal step 2, which i`ve heard is alot like #7..

    wonder if mac. glaze would out-do #7 if applied with rot. or DA?

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    aheyn,

    I believe the AIO will remove much of the fillers/oils.

    UPP might seal the fillers that are left for a short time, but not long. Polish fillers tend to dissipate rapidly no matter what they are topped with.

    I`ve used the machine glaze, #5, #7, and #81. I prefer the #81 out of all of them. However, all of them are nice products.

    Ideally, I would recommend that you use a more aggressive product like DACP, or SFP to remove the imprefections as best as possible before the #3, and not rely on the fillers to be long term.

    Just my 2 cents.

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    yep i know what u mean...thats the plan - I was going to use DACP and then #9 with rotary to try and get rid of as many swirls as possible.....then use #3 or likes to fill any that are left.

    How could I minimise the amount of fillers AIO takes out??? not put too much pressure ?

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    Originally posted by aheyn
    yep i know what u mean...thats the plan - I was going to use DACP and then #9 with rotary to try and get rid of as many swirls as possible.....then use #3 or likes to fill any that are left.

    How could I minimise the amount of fillers AIO takes out??? not put too much pressure ?
    If you want the fillers to stay don`t use AIO. There is no need to use it once you`ve used an abrasive product to remove as many swirls as possible and then have used a filler to make the rest as invisible as possible. This is the prep work and now it`s time to go to your sealant of choice.

    I don`t think using less pressure with AIO will have any effect on how much filler it takes out as AIO is, I think, primarily a chemical cleaner rather than an abrasive cleaner.
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    Plus I think anything that is a filler product would also be somewhat oily? (Just my experience) - and UPP would not bond very well.
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    FIllers will in fact stay under sealant and help the finish last longer. The trick is to find the right products to work together. Although I believe every sealer will remove some filler.Just some less than others

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    I have used the Machine glaze and I love it ... It does have some polish in it so it does increase the shine and remove very slight swirls and then fills some too.
    I have applied UPP directly on top of it and it seemed to work fine.
    I have also used Meguiars NXT on top of it with no problems.
    After several washings, both products were still beading water and the cars had a great shine.
    I have always applied Machine Glaze with a rotary ... I understand you can use a PC as well but I wonder if you would get the same polishing characteristics.
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