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    Zaino Brothers Products..? Any Good?

    Before I shell out the dead Presidents on this stuff I want some feedback from folks here. I have a black enamel finish on my show ride and I want to keep it looking fresh. I have tried numerous products and so far, these guys claim that they can give me what I want.
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    Zaino gets a lot of hype but personally I don`t think that its worth it. I feel that it gives the car a sort of plasticy look and I`m just not a fan of that. Its just my perception of it and not necessarily what everybody thinks about it. It lasts a long time and some people really like it. On black I don`t think that using Zaino or Platinum or Klasse is going to make a difference. Black looks good no matter what is on it. You really can`t go wrong. If you had a white or red or something like that then you might want to get particular about products. Black is black and everything looks pretty much the same in my opinion.

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    Hate to dissagre with my man fuzz but black is a hughe deal. You need something very clear. If what you use isn`t clear it will smudge your reflections and yellow your color. Zanio and UPP are IMO some of the best choices for black.
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    `sokay Koop. We mullets are used to being disagreed with. I don`t have a black car so my experience with what makes them look the best is limited. I`ll defer to the opinions of the more experienced on this one, but I still feel that if you need 8 bottles of a product to get a job done then its too complicated. Give me my nice simple Platinum combo any day of the week.:headbang

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    Zaino is a great sealant, and I will use it for exactly that.

    However, if you want to bring out a black car, one word, Souveran.
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    IMHO, Zaino is a fine product, and the new Zaino sounds like it`s even better than the stuff I`ve got. Having said that, If I had a black show car, I would get it polished to perfection, and then do one of the following:

    3 coats of UPP, topped with P21S.

    or

    Meguiar`s Pro hand polish #81 or #7, followed by Souveran.

    or

    One Grands Omega Glaze, followed by P21S, or Souveran.

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    If its for long-gevity on Black
    Zaino , UPP
    If it can be maintain regularly
    Machine Glaze, then Pinnacle Souvran

    Souvran won;t last as long as Zaino or UPP
    but it looks great/fantastic on black..

    jeff

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    Thanx one and all!

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    I`m not a Zanio fan but have used the porduct and it works OK like the fuzz it has a plastic look to it.

    I like the following on my black car and it looks wet more than anything, and better yet does not seem to attarct dust like some others have.

    Poorboys Swril remover ( on a show car won`t need this step)
    Poorboys AIO POlish with Carnuba
    Poorboys EX

    I have put on 2 coats and the second one really gave it the POP that I was looking for.
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    Zaino

    IMO, I feel that Zaino delivers that wet-look, and some may call it "plastic", but if the prep work has been done correctly, you just can`t beat Zaino for clarity! The nature of it makes it look as if your car just came out of a paint oven.

    Here`s my SC430 with Zaino on it:

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    If its a show ride and you want it perfect use a glaze like I.H.G., Meg #7, or Mothers Sealer and Glaze. You can always follow with wax like Meg #26, Mothers Pure, S100,Soverign,and Blitz.

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    you can`t argue with Deanski after posting a pic like that.

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    The plastic look that I see in Zaino doesn`t show up in the sunlight up close. Its usually when the car is at a distance in the shade that I see it. Its definitely got its good points to it though. I`d love to see three coats of Zaino next to three coats of UPP and then check the clarity.

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    "Plastic look"

    The "Plastic Look" that people describe is due to poor prep work prior to Zaino. Most is left over oils/silicone and other is not using a really good fine polish to obtain the mirror shine you need prior to a sealant like Zaino.

    Zaino "amplifies" whatever was left on the finish. If it`s not fully polished or oils and or silicone is left, it can lead to a haze under it giving a false look or "plastic" effect. The oils/silicone interact with Zaino as it tries to bond. That`s why it looks so "funky".

    With the Lexus SC430, I used 3M PIII-MG with a polish pad. Following that, I used Glue-Zerna oh, sorry, Menzerna-FP with just a finish grey/black pad as I wanted the polish alone to burnish the finish to a high gloss. Once all polishing was done, I washed the finish with Dawn, followed by Z7 to remove any Dawn film. Then, a spray of distilled water/alcohol mix was used to further the finish by final removal of all oils left b y polishes. Wiped, then applied Z6 prior to a mix of ZFX/Z5 (even though polished, I felt it builds the level) up to 3 coats. Following that, 3 coats of ZFX/Z2. Z6 was used between each and every application.

    As you can see from the pic, it was very glossy. Here is another:

    All that`s needed, no matter if it`s Zaino or other sealants is a full polish/prep. If one does not have time for all this work, then stay with carnuba, as the oils/silicone act well with wax when it`s applied. It helps the wax "float" and help it migrate to the finish. Good results can be had with S100, Souveran, or other waxes.

    Sealants are a bit more labor intensive if you want it done right. Skip the details, and you get that "funky, plastic" look.

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    Before I detailed my truck last week I had Zainos on it, Zainos only. My truck has a much better shine now that I redetailed it. I feel you can not beat a carnuba shine. Also Zainos Swirl Remover is crap, it didnt help at all. It takes to long to apply. It did have a nice shine and protection but when I detailed last week the shine was so much better. The Zainos was not on my truck very long also cause I didnt care for it and I could kinda see the plastic look.
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